Sterling Diaphragm Engine

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Ian S C
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Ian S C » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:46 am

Trev, You do really have to use steel through out for the crankshaft, and I tend to go up a size for both the main shaft and the crank pins, but you have done well.
I tend to make my shafts from solid, that's even more work.
Ian S C

Trevor
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Trevor » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:31 am

Thanks Ian - I must get some steel shafting for the cranks as you suggest, but I do find it hard to work with and there is no way I can make a crank from a solid piece - Your the Guru here Ian and I am overwhelmed with your work. I promise to try and make a better one next though it is going to be a Beam type.
Thank you ever so much for your help on this project. Trev

James
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby James » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:23 pm

Great job Trevor.

All I can say is there is beauty in function.

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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Trevor » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:19 am

Amen! to that James.

Ian S C
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Ian S C » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:44 am

trev, continue with the methd of construction that you are using now, you are doing well. Ian S C

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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby thanh-cuibap » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:30 am

I hate Trevor, Trevor made nice engine , I have painted my engine !!
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Trevor » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:37 am

Wow! Thanh. Nice engine with all that paint work. I have to ask you, how did you make the fins with a parting off blade? I have tried many times without not much success. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but the bloody things keep chattering and then snapping the blade. Checked the angle of cutting to the work, but ALAS - Darn!
Gee you have done some nice work on that engine - Does it run for a long time - I did see the video but was only shoprt.
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby thanh-cuibap » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:25 am

Hi Trevor !! I make the fins with a parting off blade . I think it's not run for a long time ! because all made of aluminum !!
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Trevor » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:07 pm

Thank you Thanh - I think I see where I may have been wrong and that is the angle of relief. Mine has been very low or flat compared to yours. Excellent info with the pics - Love them.
I will try what you pics show and let you know in a few days. Like your work Thanh

Trevor

James
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby James » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:26 pm

Those fins look cool. Anyone care to explain the function of these fins? I think they look nice on the engine even if its just for aesthetics. :big smile:

Ian S C
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Ian S C » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:14 am

James, the fins increase the area exposed to the air to dissipate the heat, same happens on a motor bike, or lawn mower motor.
Trev, when using the parting tool, knock the speed right back on the lathe, use a steady but slow feed(some people use power feed), if the material is aluminium, lubricate it with WD-40, or kerosene/paraffin(UK), cast iron dry, steel I use soluble cutting oil. Don't have the blade extended any more than need be.
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Trevor » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:12 pm

Thanks Ian.I do use dewatering and/or kerosene fluid for aluminium as it is the only thing that works. Got me on the speed though. I was always taught fast with alloys, but this is not necessary so! I have found chattering does stop when going really slow - So your point is taken as gospel to me. Good show mate. Might actually get one made very soon :big smile:

Trevor

Ian S C
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Ian S C » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:18 am

The speed mainly depends on the state of the machinery, light lathes don't absorb the vibrations, a heavy industrial machine will manage the high speeds.
One of the main reasons for high speed machining is money, the faster you can make a part the cheaper it is.
I use mainly HSS tooling, and on ally I usually stick to about 600rpm.
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Trevor » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:03 pm

Thanks Ian - Never looked at it that way. We will see how I go next week when I am back from our holiday in the rain.
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Re: Sterling Diaphragm Engine

Postby Trevor » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:35 am

Yep! you were right Ian. The slower the better, I have now set my lathe to 150rpm and it works a wonder on the parting off of the alloy and especially brass. I also listened to Thanh as you may have noticed from his pics that the angle of attack was a lot more acute to what I was using. It also made a difference. Trev


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